Organizing at 2005

After numerous years of threatening to get organized, this year it is truly happening.  It’s a slow go, but I’m getting there.  How do I get there you ask…well, let me give you an example!

The 2005 Washington Redskins…and google docs.  That’s right two things that have nothing to do with each other have come together for today’s post.  A post about a team that was anxiety inducing to watch and a blast to look back through the cards from that year. 

Now, when I mention google docs…there are layers to this.  I like, well…I require and love organization.  I can’t stand it when things are not in the place I expect them to be.  I also love and require a ‘complete’ version of something.  If is buy #3 and #7 of something, it’s only a matter of time before I’m searching for numbers 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6.  I could go on too depending on when it all ends, but I think you get the idea.  I’m a completionist…not sure that’s a word, but neither was ‘blog’ 15 years ago.  I like to have a COMPLETE list of things.  That’s an incredible challenge when dealing with sports cards, especially modern sports cards… 

Parallels

Rainbows

Inserts

Variations

Serial Numbers

SP’s

SSP’s

1 of 1’s

The list goes on and on and on and I want my list to contain each and every single one of these cards.  Now, I know I won’t get everyone.  That’s insanity and I don’t have that kind of cash.  That’s not the point.  The point is the chase.  The pursuit of the low hanging Topps flagship vs. the extra hard to find Upper Deck something or another for a specific year with a specific color variation and the SN on the back…or front.  (Do we have opinions on where those should be?  Front or Back?  I’m a back of the card guy FWIW).  So, in order to get a complete list, or at least that I can feel is 97% complete I take the inventory of cards from the Beckett database and Trading Card Database and combine them into one google sheet…here’s the Washington Redskins version (name change will happen at some point soon…).  Insane I know.  The list covers every card, some objects and a few magazines from what I could find from 1935 – Today.  That’s upwards of 70,000 cards….seems like there would be more, but 70k is what I like to call – A SHIT TON – of cards.  The frightening part is that I’m sure I’m missing a few.  I’ve already found a few cards I have that are not in the google doc.  It’s only maddening if I know about the missing misses…a bit of Schrödinger’s plates going on…ok, maybe not.  So, yeah…the list…it’s insane.  I’ve tracked everything up to 2005 and have combined the lists up to 2012.  Some more work ahead of me, but that’s part of the hobby I enjoy.

Here’s the list…if you dare!

So, the cards from 2005.  The team from 2004.  The pain.

Here’s a sampling of what I’ve checked off the list, an image of a few of my favorite cards or players from the ’04 season and ’05 designs.

First off, the Quarterbacks.  When you have two QB’s that’s ok, because a great backup is hard to come by…but when you have three…that’s too many.  It’s like an exponential thing.  Two is ok, Three is what the hell are you even doing!

Next player is LaVar Arrington.  For a few years he was hands down my favorite player.  Never really reached superstardom at Linebacker, but he was a solid player.  Then a few injuries piled up and he was quickly overlooked and shuttled off for other players that didn’t really match his caliber.  Seeing him in New York as a Giant was a heartbreaker for me…

Chris Cooley was great.  He had a tremendous sense of humor and once even showed off his prick while (I’ll let you google that and have it in your search history) snapping a pick of the playbook…not sure what was more egregious…NFL playbooks are sacred.

Santana MOSS!  Absolutely loved this guy in Washington…so much so, that I’ve been collecting his Jets cards as well.  He was so incredible and passionate, how could you not want a guy like that on your team.  He was traded for Laveranues Coles…who, ironically was traded to Washington from the Jets originally.  The second trade worked out better for my team.

The next guy, Carlos Rogers was…well…I really thought he would be special.  A high draft pick in ’05 that just didn’t pan out as a big time player in DC.  He moved on to the 49ers and had a bit of a rebirth, then on to the Raiders where he ended his career.

Ok.  Here are a couple Miami guys…I could have grouped Moss in here as well, but these two were special.  I love Portis.  One of my top 5 Washington guys of all time…Love everything he brought to the team, including Sean Taylor.  Not saying that Portis was the reason Taylor came to the team, but he did push hard.  To be honest, I don’t think it would have been wise for Joe Gibbs to pass on such a talented player…still miss ST21.

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The last group of guys are Redskins greats, guys that had a huge impact on the organization.  All three are in the Redskins ring of Fame.  Bobby Mitchell and Charley Taylor are both in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

oh yeah, found this one too…Alex Smith Rookie Card…along with one of the numerous Browns QB draft picks Charlie Frye…and future Browns QB Jason Campbell. Let’s play six degrees of separation with these guys some day.

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Since 2020 is almost done. YAY. I thought i’d share the most 2020 video from one of my favorite groups in the world. RTJ – Run The Jewels. Love these guys!

Well…damn…!!??!?!!?

We have a champion in the very first ever Cardboard Hogs contest…and it was a non-contested contest.  The Winner…wait for it…GAVIN!! from my current hometown of Portland, Oregon and writer/blogger of the very entertaining Baseball Card Breakdown blog.  I don’t believe i have your address, so it you wouldn’t mind passing me an email i’ll get something over to you that i hope you enjoy!  Not sure i’m going to make it to the show the weekend…

In case you were wondering, here are the results…along with some other stuff.

DOOR #1 – $20

Rypien Monk Mann

Ok, brief story on this lot.  This is the old guy, the new…old guy that had the vintage football.  Seemed nice, very chatty…but there was something odd about him.  He was a little more pushy than the other guys and was really doing a sell job on me.  Normally i don’t like that and tend to wander off when i get that kind of vibe.  I should have listened to my gut!  When i pulled this lot of cards, i handed him the stack and said my usual “what’s my damage…?”  his response was “…make me an offer!”  I offered $10 thinking that was more than enough.  $2 per card.  In fact, i thought it was a little too high…Bill probably has all of these cards in his 7 for $5 boxes.  Anyways, he LOL’d out loud and said “…the 24K gold card is $20 by itself!”.  That’s the Charles Mann card.  He could quite possibly be right, but card shows aren’t about getting top dollar for your cards. It’s about selling cards to collectors at negotiable prices that work for both parties.  I was taken back by his counter and shockingly stared at the cards for what seemed like 2 minutes before sheepishly taking out a $20 and handing it to him.  Retelling this story and reliving the moment, i’m quite upset with myself.  I tend to be a fairly generous person and don’t mind getting the lesser end of the deal if i can make someone happy…but this was just a case of me getting taken advantage of…and it pissed me off…i’m still upset that i let myself accept that offer.  I should have given him the cards back and walked off.  I will certainly skip his table next time…if he’s there again.  I can’t imagine he did much business in finding too many suckers last time.

DOOR #2 – $15

This is just some good ole’ Tom hooking me up.  His table was my third stop and more than made up for the previous door…Now, Tom has a habit of overpricing his cards and then giving you a great deal on them.  I think he does that so he an engage in conversation with the guys at the show.  When he handed me that Jamison Crowder card with a $40 sticker, i was like nah SON!  But, he smiled and said, “you know i’ll make a good deal for you.”

DOOR #3 – $25

These are a few gems from Kim.  All relics or autos, most with serial numbers…and $5 more than door #1.  This is why i enjoy hitting up Kim’s table.  He has stuff set aside for me and i get great deals on them.

DOOR #4 – $10

Reed Seastrunk Jeffcoat

So, the last door was from the military vet.  This is another guy that over prices his cards with the label, but is more than happy to negotiate a deal quickly and easily.  He’s the autograph guy that is more interested in moving things than keeping them.  I had offered him $15 for the lot and was scrambling around for a $5 to go with my $10 and he said “…$10 is fine…”  That’s how you treat a customer at a mall show i say!!

So there you have it kids.  Don’t let people take advantage of you and do not hesitate to negotiate…don’t be a sucker like me!

Today is the first day of spring and my mid year birthday…tomorrow is my son’s…kinda cool that we basically share birthdays.  So, in honor of none of that…here’s a video from a TEDx conference in Wisconsin by Michael Ford…very cool connection of Hip Hop and Architecture.  Check it out.

Let’s Make a Deal! or not?

When i was in elementary school, my grandma would pick me up after class.  Sometimes we’d head straight to the house and other times we would make a pit stop for a snack or late lunch.  Her favorite spot was the Sonic in Schertz.  It was one of those older drive ins, and like they still do today, they would bring the food out to your car…sometimes in roller skates!  These were great times, simpler times…easier times.

My grandma was a TV freak and had to watch all of her shows.  This was before she had a VCR, so we’d have to get through those burgers, fries and shakes quickly so we could get home to watch Monty Hall and Let’s make a Deal on the tele.  Grandma was from England. I loved the show, not so much because of the premise of choosing some random “prize” behind doors 1, 2 or 3, but because of the wacky ass outfits the people wore.  Granny enjoyed the show because she liked to go on ‘winning streaks’ of picking the right door…again, simpler times back then.  If you are unaware of the show, you should definitely check it out.  It’s like a three card molly scam where nobody really walks away a winner…why are they dressed like that!

So, that brings me to some cards…the last show i went to, unplanned, i stopped by a new guys table and chatted him up a bit.  He seemed like a nice older guy and kinda reminded me of my grandpops.  Had a similar look from what i could cobble together from my cloudy memory…it’s been 25 years since he passed.  There was something about the guy that made me want to hang out.  I began to sift through his cards and was pleased to see that he had some odd ball cards and a ton of vintage football stuff…mostly 49ers though.  Since most of his collection was 49ers, i didn’t get too many cards but was able to pick out a few i needed for my master collection.

DOOR #1

Rypien Monk Mann

Next stop was Tom’s table.  Tom was my original go-to guy at the show…it’s been close to 8 years since i first met him.  He works at Check out my Cards during the week and does the shows on the weekends.  He’s really helped me through the years with filling out some Heritage set needs, plus he’s a great guy to talk to.  Here’s what i picked up from his table at the last show.

DOOR #2

Next table for some Redskins cards.  My new go-to guy, Kim.  Kim is great.  He’s always incredibly nice and friendly as well.  Plus he always has way too many cards for me to sort through with incredible deals.  He tends to deal more with the big hits and pricier cards but always comes through with a great deal.  Here’s what i got from Kim.

DOOR #3

Last stop.  Last door.  The veteran Marine autograph guy.  Not too sure about this dude.  Seems friendly…maybe not.  Has a ton of autographs from people of all walks of life.  Chasing famous people for autographs isn’t really my thing, but it’s always cool to see what he has.  Sometimes he has a nice new lot of cards that i can sort through…most of the time i end up passing his table without picking anything up, but today i got a few autograph cards.  (i know, i know…it’s supposed to be three doors, but just roll with me on this.)

DOOR #4

Reed Seastrunk Jeffcoat

Okay kids.  It’s time to play LET’S MAKE A DEAL!!!

Here’s the deal, i’m going to do a bit of a game…or a contest as the kids say.  The first person to correctly guess the cost of each lot will win a nice little gift pack of their favorite team from my collection.  Closest to the correct answers win, along with some kind of tie breaker i guess.

Here’s a list of possible prices for each lot: $5  |  $10  |  $15  |  $20  |  $25  |  $30  |  $35

I’ll post the winner next Monday, March 20th…the first day of Spring…and my mid year birthday!!

 

Cedar Hills Show – The low budget version ep.IV

I’m finding that scanning cards is an arduous task.  I imagine this is why so many bloggers choose to not scan that many cards or just eventually allow their blogs to fade to black.  So I’m going to ride out the next couple of posts with some more cards that are sitting in my queue.  As you would imagine they are all Redskin cards, so I understand if you stop reading from this point on…but you really shouldn’t bail…this is going to be a great visit.  I’m feeling wordy tonight and have a ton of stuff to show.

Buckle your seat belts.

Digging through dusty old boxes gives you time to think about things.  Things you could have done.  Things you should be doing and most importantly, things you completely struck out on.  That’s what this trifecta of young, future stars represents for me.  Justin Tryon and Malcolm Kelly were products of a Cerrato draft.  Those last two words are almost always followed by the following two words ‘…which sucked’.  Look at those crazy eyes!

cerrato_vinny

Vinny did all he could to single handedly destroy the franchise for many many years.  Constantly selecting guys that should have never been drafted or shouldn’t have been drafted so high.  That’s all assuming, of course that the Redskins had picks to make.  Cerrato hyped Kelly up so much that he mad me believing we had the next Art Monk on the roster.  Unfortunately for Kelly, he had Greg Oden knees and never really played that much…but made some nice money.  Tryon was supposed to be a nice kick/punt returner and future cornerback.  Neither really happened and he was eventually jettisoned to Indy.  Thompson was a free agent pick up for the Redskins in 1999, never really making an impact with the team.  BUT he was the homecoming King for Cedar Hill High School, so that’s a thing.  He did two things I will never accomplish. Play in the NFL and be called a King by anyone, ever…

00 Tryon Kelly Thompson

Speaking of big disappointments, Michael Westbrook.  This guy and Health Shuler should have been the next great QB/WR duo, but both never really panned out.  When these cards initially came out, they were probably going for $8-$10 each…now, you can pick the trifecta up for fifteen cents.  Don’t let your kids ‘invest’ in cards.

95 PR Michael Westbrook

This is a great trio right here.  B-Mitch, Stephen Davis and Champ.  Mitchell should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame already!  Dude is only behind Jerry Rice in all purpose yards for a career.  JERRY RICE!  That’s it.  Anytime you are on a list and the only guy ahead of you is Jerry Rice, you are a winner.  Davis is really special…He’s from Spartanburg, SC.  I have lots of family there.  I should write something about him soon, very soon.  Champ.  This is the guy that brought Portis to DC.  There was a time that I really disliked (read hated) Champ.  Anytime a player begs to not play for my favorite team, they might as well be dead to me.  But, being the forgiving man that I am, I have seen the light and appreciate his phenomenal career.  I just wish he could have had his success with the Redskins.

00 TO Mitchell Davis Bailey

The three greatest Redskin quarterbacks.  Sammy, Sonny and Joe.  Three photos.  Three face mask bars.  These guys are old school like suede pumas.  Sammy Baugh was a Texan and was one of the main catalyst for the forward pass in the NFL.  If money was no object, he is a guy that I would love to get some vintage stuff of…instead i’m relegated to reprints and new releases.  The Sonny card is pretty fantastic.  Love the colors and the determination in his eyes is priceless.  Plus I love the spear helmet.  The Theismann sticker is actually a duplicate, but i figured for a nickel, you couldn’t go wrong.

00 TU Sammy Sonny Joe

Mark Rypien was one of the three quarterbacks to win a Super Bowl under Joe Gibbs.  He’s sort of a local guy…went to Washington State and still lives in Spokane I believe.  He’s also made a few appearances in Vancouver just across the big river.

92 FL Mark Rypien Performance Highlights

Who loves parallels.  I always have to double check these things…’I know i’ve seen this card before…do I have this one or that one?’  #cardcollectorproblems

08 TO Cooley Portis Moss

08 TK Moss Portis Campbell

I’m losing gas here, so i’m just going to show you the goods.  Coles was annoying, so glad he’s didn’t last long.  LaVar was the first jersey I ever bought and Gardner goes along side Westbrook for good, but not as good as he could have been.

04 UD Coles Arrington Gardner

 

09 UD Campbell Fletcher Randle El

06 TO Cooley Betts Portis

00 Mayhew Davis Green

00 Gilbert Davis Portis

 

I love the Redskins.  This is MY team.  I love going through all of the old cardboard and seeing guys that had great careers.  Some players have the ability to meet or exceed their talent while others fail to live up to whatever standards have been set for them.  As a fan, it’s difficult to understand that these guys deal with a lot each day and sacrifice their physical health and well being to entertain us.  So that said, I would personally like to apologize to Champ Bailey, Lav….Coles (sorry dude, your name is weird), Michael Westbrook, Sean Gilbert and Rod Gardner.  I have said many bad things about you guys in the past and it wasn’t fair to you.  You have accomplished things that I wish I could have done…and made a lot of fans happy (or pissed! Vinny!)  That’s what I was really thinking about when sorting through these pieces of cardboard, not getting upset with these men in Burgundy and Gold.  They are doing their best.

This was probably one of the most rambling posts about nothing I have ever done.  It will get better…

 

One Dollar and Five Cents Pt. III: QB Carousel

I stopped by Marv’s table over the weekend to go through his nickel box of football cards and ended up buying 100 cards for a whopping $4.  Thanks for the deal Marv!

As I was going through the cards, i kept pulling QB’s and thinking to myself…’what in the hell is going on here!’  I’ve seen the charts and understand the numbers of QB’s that the Redskins have had since their last Super Bowl winning QB, Mark Rypien…but DAMN!  To see it through a card collector’s eyes was a little overwhelming and as a fan, quite disappointing.  It’s no wonder why the Redskins have had so little success in the past 20+ seasons.  I realize it doesn’t begin and end with the QB, but that’s one major part of the ‘Why’.

Here’s one group starting with Rypien.  Shuler…ugghhh…and Frerotte.  Gus actually had a pretty good NFL career and saw some success with the Minnesota Vikings as well as the Redskins.  Just not enough to be a franchise QB

00 Mark Rypien Heath Shuler Gus Frerotte

The next group included Brad Johnson.  He had varying degrees of success before and after his Redskins career and nearly got the Redskins to the NFC Championship game in 1999…but not close enough.  Jeff George was a freaking disaster and appeared visibly unaffected by his inability to complete a pass to one of his teammates.  Todd Husak…i don’t even remember him…

00 Brad Johnson Jeff George Todd Husak

Now for the really dark days.  Sage Rosenfels never got a start for the Redskins and i’m not sure if he had any games played in the NFL and I don’t really care to look it up.  Patrick Ramsey.  The poor kid.  I was really excited when the Redskins drafted him and thought he could be a franchise QB…unfortunately, the team around him, especially the O Line was terrible and he got knocked around like a punching bag which hindered his career as it would anyone.  Tim Hasselbeck.  The thing i know about him is that he’s one of the generalist talking heads at ESPN and his wife is quite obnoxious, although cute, but still obnoxious.

00 Sage Rosenfels Patrick Ramsey Tim Hasselbeck

Brighter days are ahead with this next group.  Brunell led the Redskins to the playoffs in 2005, well not really because he was terrible and could barely complete a pass.  That team made the playoff because of the defense and the running of Clinton Portis.  Insert Jason Campbell.  I really, really thought he would be the guy and was extremely excited about him starting at QB.  But, similar to Ramsey, he was in a very unstable environment which ended up stunting his growth.  You can’t expect a guy to learn a new offense every season of his career and have any ounce of success.  He has bounced around the past few years and never really gotten a fair shot a starting job.  I’m hoping he can be the guy in Cleveland this year.  The Browns have done a great job of rebuilding their franchise and I think he can perform better than Weeden at this point.  Palmer…that’s it.

00 Mark Brunell Jason Campbell Jordan Palmer

Here is a list of the men that have taken a snap from center since Mark Rypien was injured and eventually released from the Redskins in 1994.

Rich Gannon – 4 games

Cary Conklin – 2 games

Heath Shuler – 13 games

John Friesz – 4 games

Gus Frerotte – 49 games

Jeff Hostetler – 3 games

Trent Green – 14 games

Brad Johnson – 27 games

Jeff George – 7 games

Tony Banks – 14 games

Shane Matthews – 7 games

Patrick Ramsey – 24 games

Danny Wuerffel – 4 games

Tim Hasselbeck – 5 games

Mark Brunell – 33 games

Jason Campbell – 52 games

Todd Collins – 3 games

Donovan McNabb – 13 games

Rex Grossman – 16 games

John Beck – 3 games

RG3 – 15 games

Kirk Cousins – 1 game

That’s 20 QB’s that have bridged the gap between Rypien and Griffin.  This hopefully makes it clear why us Redskins fans are so overly infatuated with Robert Griffin III.  He’s brought some stability to a very unstable position…now, if he can stay healthy…but, if he can’t?  I will take my chances with Kirk Cousins…or at least welcome a first rounder or two for Captain Kirk next season.

One Dollar and Five Cents Pt. II

In continuation with last weeks post from the Cedar Hills Show, here are a few other cards pulled from the nickel and dollar boxes.  My back is finally at it’s full strength from being hunched over the boxes, so all is good…just need to work on the neck strain thing and i will be 100%, taking it day to day.

The Redskins in the late 90’s were pretty much a directionless team led by Norv Turner and a carousel of stop gap quarterbacks.  The one constant for a couple  years was Stephen Davis.  A pretty powerful back in his day and a guy that i loved watching run.  I’ve been collecting his cards for a while now and love it when i come across a few cards i’ve never seen before.  This is around the time when i wasn’t collecting and they came from the nickel box.

00 UD UV Stephen Davis

When the Redskins drafted Malcolm Kelly, i was really excited about his potential and thought he would be a phenomenal compliment to Moss.  Unfortunately for the kid, he had Greg Oden’s knees and never really got on the field.  Jimmy Zorn the Zornado loved him though and they kept him around longer than they should have.  I don’t think he is playing anymore, which really sucks for him.  These types of stories are a dime a dozen for young athletes.  I just hope he has his money right and is a productive member of his community.  Love the Diamond background on Santana, he owns the game.

06 TF Santana Moss 09 PS Malcolm Kelly

Three years ago, this guy was traded to the Redskins and they got worked by their divisional rival Eagles on the deal.  The Shanahans thought they were just a QB away and that McNabb was that QB.  I guess the best part about McNabb being terrible as a Redskin was that it lead to Rex Grossman being the QB which led to John Beck being on the roster which led to the Redskins having two guys that shouldn’t be starting in the NFL which led to a terrible season, which finally led to RG3 coming to DC.  Life as a Redskin fan looks brighter, assuming of course, RG3 doesn’t also have Greg Oden’s knees.

10 PS AM Donovan McNabb

Jason Campbell, i feel terrible for this guy and think he could have had a solid career if he didn’t play for such a terrible organization.  He’s with the Browns right now, which is basically the equivelant of bottoming out in the NFL (sorry Browns fans).  I still love Campbell and hope he becomes the starter and does great things in Cleveland this year.

09 TC 09 S Jason Campbell

Art Monk, one of my all time favorite Redskins and Michael Westbrook, one of my least favorite.  I’m going to refrain from talking too much shit about Westbrook as he can easily kick my ass.  I do love the short shorts though, nothing weird about that at all.  How about that strategically placed photo with football in the upper right…whattajob Topps, you are indeed the finest.

92 TF Art Monk 95 FG Michael Westbrook

Last up Darrell Green.  The man and the Legend along with Rice.  Another legend…no Randy Moss though?

85 T 91 S Darrell Green